About Senegal and love for the music
You know how an idea sometimes becomes real by pure coincidence?
This story is about that. And Senegal.
I don't know why I feel some sort of connection with Africa – could be
because of my name (which is African), or maybe heartbreaking (or
heartwarming) photos of cute little children and nice people, or its
wilderness, or simply my encounters with Africans around the world.
Maybe also my strong sense of justice and the need to protect everyone I feel
should be protected.
Africa is much more than everything I wrote above and it is not, as you
may wish to remind yourselves, a country, but a continent. It means that
there are plenty of differences and whichever African country you choose, it
will be quite unique in its own sense.
I chose West Africa or, to be more precise, Senegal, Gambia and Mali. This
is where music took me to. Being an eager fan of all kinds of music, I like
to explore music around the world. And so I came across some
well-known names that most of us will have known, such as Youssou
N'Dour and Salif Keita. I started listening to everything they have ever
produced and loved it. And the language(s), too. They led me further to
some great musicians such as Rokia Traore, a woman who I absolutely
admire just by her looks and energy, let alone her musical talent.
And then I thought how great it would be to visit those countries. Of
course, it would be. But it's not like you go to your friends and say –
„Look, I feel like going to Africa, I'd really like to explore the music and
the culture in Senegal. Do you think you could go with me? „– and expect
them to say „Yes, sure!“ immediately.
So I abandoned the idea. Then I saw there was a concert of Senegalese
music in Zagreb and went to it. I met there Senegalese musicians who are
also organizing music workshops in Senegal. And this is where Commi
Balde, a talented Senegalese musician from Ziguinchor, comes in. A few
days ago I spoke to him about Senegal, putting in front of him a long list
of questions that I prepared.
We hope that you will enjoy this interview and maybe get interested into
some of the topics mentioned, especially the workshop Commi and his
friends are organizing in Senegal in December 2015.
Connected: Commi, this will be a story about you and your views about
Senegal and everything else. We'll start with you then.
Commi: I'm from Ziguinchor, a Senegalese town on the West African coast,
and
I come from a large family of musicians. Everyone from my mother's side
was a
musician. She herself is a „griot“, which is a term denoting a special
class of
people in Senegalese society –historians, storytellers, praise singers,
poets
and/or musicians. The griot is a source of oral tradition and is often
seen as
a societal leader.
As you may know, we all come from different
tribes and the most popular ones
in Senegal are the Wolof, Mandinka, Fula and
Serer. Each of the tribes has
their own language, like Wolof and Mandinka,
which are the most popular
languages in Senegal and everyone, no matter which tribe they are from, will
speak these two. Wolof is officially
recognized as „lingua franca“ in Senegal.
My mother is a Mandinka and my father
a Fula. Yet I can hardly speak or
understand Fula. I speak Mandinka, Wolof and
French. French is an official
language taught at school, as we used to be a
French colony. Portuguese is
also spoken by some people in the south of
Senegal. Apart from that, many
people, myself included, speak English as well.
Connected: The musicians I mentioned earlier, Youssou N'Dour, Rokia
Traore,
etc., all have a status of griots. And your mother, too – that means
that it
was inevitable that you have a strong musical influence in your family.
Commi: Yes, exactly. As I said
there are a lot of musicians in my family
playing all sorts of instruments such
as drums (djembe, saouruba, sabar),
kora, etc. I play all of those and also the
guitar. I was going to school and
then said to my parents I wanted to be a
musician. They weren't happy about
it (smiles),
but that's exactly what I became. I started playing all across
Senegal and a
few times also in the Gambia with my uncle . Music for me is
all about passion.
It will always be the first thing in my life. I feel I have a lot
to give in
terms of it and want to develop myself constantly. The musicians
you mentioned
are among my favorite ones, but the one I really look up to is
Seckou Keita. He
is the one from whose music I learn and inspire myself all
the time. I can play
everything, like covers, i.e. popular stuff, but my aim is to
be performing my
own music, which I write. That is exactly what I'm doing
most of the time. Here
in Croatia I have two bands: Kaira Kela, made up of
Senegalese musicians mostly,
who are my friends, now also living in Europe;
and Silaba, which is a band of
both Senegalese and Croatian musicians.
Connected: About Croatia, you've
been here for quite some time now.
Commi: Yes,this is my second
time in Croatia and this time I've been here for
almost two years now. I have a
lot of projects here. Together with my friend
Abdoulaye I have a dance school
where we teach African dance and we have
numerous workshops where we teach
playing African instruments, such as
djembe, etc. We make our own instruments
and I can tell you that these
workshops have been extremely popular with
Croatians. Most of them are in
Zagreb, but we've had workshops all over
Croatia, from north to south. We are
just preparing a workshop on the island of
Vis, which will take place in July.
Connected: Can you tell our
readers something about the workshop you are organizing in Senegal and which
will take place from December 20 to January 7 or 9, 2016?
Commi: Yes, that is the one you
are interested in. We will go from Zagreb to
Dakar and then to Ziguinchor.
After that we are going to Kafountine, a small
island on the West coast, where
we will have a two-week workshop of African
music and dance. Me and Abdoulaye
will be organizing the whole trip and act
as your guides during all that time.
This is the website that we've set up for
that purpose:
I hope more of you will get interested in it
and experience Africa as it is in its
entire culture.
Connected: Looking at the
itinerary and talking to you, I can say you are very organized. I have to say,
I didn't expect that kind of attention to details in this context.
Commi: Well, I'm always like
that. I want to make things right, especially
when it comes to things that I
live from. However, I don't want to perform on
my own, I have my bands. Kaira Kela, for instance, has 8 musicians and we look for venues where we can all perform together.
my own, I have my bands. Kaira Kela, for instance, has 8 musicians and we look for venues where we can all perform together.
Connected: You said you write
your own music. What about other musicians in your two bands?
Commi: Yes, I do, but when I
finish something, I want each member of the
band to add their own touch to it
so that we can have a piece of music that
contains something from all of us.
Connected: Let's talk about your
country now. Tell us something about its cultural traits. The first thing that
crosses my mind is that most people in Senegal are Muslim. How does that
influence your culture?
Commi: Yes, most people are. I
was also born into a Muslim family.
Regardless of the tribes we have, which are
part of African tradition, most
people in Senegal are Muslim. This means
certain traditions that we respect.
For instance, this is the month of Ramadan
or time for us to fast. It means we
don't eat anything from dawn to dusk. We also
abstain from all wrongdoings,
such as swearing, etc. Politically speaking, Senegal is a democratic country.
We are liberal in terms that young generations are similar to young
people anywhere else in the world.
We are liberal in terms that young generations are similar to young
people anywhere else in the world.
Connected: And that is also
reflected in the status of women in your society?
Commi: Well, yes. Not all of
them wear traditional clothes, like hijab.
However, there are some villages where
circumcision of women is still
performed. But that is something that we fight a
hard battle against to
eradicate completely.
eradicate completely.
On the other hand, we are a very friendly
country, which, just like our
Gambian neighbours, lives from tourism. We like people and talking to „toubabs“ („white persons“).
Gambian neighbours, lives from tourism. We like people and talking to „toubabs“ („white persons“).
Connected: Tell us some phrases
in Wolof, the most popular language in Senegal.
Commi:
„Na nga def?“ – „How are you?“, „Hello“
„Jaam rek“ – „I'm fine“ , reply to „Hello“ („peace
only“)
„Na nga tudd?“ – „What's your name?“
„Maa ngi tudd“ – „My name is....“
„Ba beneen“ – „Goodbye“
„Jai rruh-jef“ –„Thank you“
„Namm naa laa“ – „I miss you“.
„Baal ma“ – „Sorry“
„Deg nga English?“ –„Do you speak English?“
It's not difficult to pronounce, because we
write the same as we speak.
(All photos are property of Ismaila Commi Balde and his website about the workshop in Senegal).
Connected: And your food?
Commi: Rice with anything. We
take rice very seriously (smiles). You will find
a lot of dishes with rice and
fish and rice and chicken. We don't eat too many
sweets as for us that is
„little food“. In Senegal we have three large meals:
breakfast, lunch and
dinner. And they have their exact time when you should
take them. At those
times we eat hearty portions but in between there are no
nibbles like here.
Here, or in Europe, everyone can eat all the time. We don't
do that.
Connected: What are your plans
for the future?
Commi:
I like Croatia, I have here a lot of friends
who are very welcoming.
However, it is not easy to make a living. I work hard, but I guess it's like
that anywhere else.
However, it is not easy to make a living. I work hard, but I guess it's like
that anywhere else.
Connected: Begg naa Senegal,
thank you, Commi!